Listen to part of a radio programme. Peter Jones works for Art and Business, a company that develops creative partnerships between business and the arts.

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Language level

Upper intermediate: B2


I agree with the fiction book to help businesses for example recently all people know Nokia company is the best company in 2000 at this time I remember most of the people in the world using Nokia mobile phones and the company have greatly credible in the world. On the day one of the Employees has new software and a new design, he already presented the new software and new design to the chairman and managers, but the company, it is made a big mistake when thought the new software is fiction and can’t to productivity. Today, all people in the world know the Android software.

Through this article I first time have known that reading books help a lot to businesses as it raises creativity, especially fictional and poetic books. The idea of creativity helping businesses is very right today, because, for example, with creative heads we can produce high technological machines or robots. They do menial jobs much better and precise than human and help business get higher productivity. To lead the technology and even not let it overwhelm us by robots, we need to do more humane and mindful jobs that robots can not do.
I like 'dramatic' books which show vibrant pictures written logically. When I read them, I learned a lot about close, deep and hidden stories that I could not read on newspapers or movies. For example, the most recent writer I like is Dan Brown who wrote a bunch of best selling fictional books about Catholic, Vatican, sciences, USA politics or so on. I seemed to not able to put his books down when opened the first page.

I am agreed that introducing reading fiction and poetry can help businesses to be more effective. Reading is a form of therapy has helped humans for centuries and a powerful way to understand others, tap into creativity and exercise own brain. Imagining creates understanding.
The Ingenious Gentlemen Sir Quixote of La Mancha or just Don Quixote by Cervantes has inspired and had a positive influence on me. In my Alma Mater we learned entire pages at heart for example about La Mancha with so beautiful descriptions. And the figure of The Knight of the Sad Countenance was amazing and sensational, romantic and tragic at the same time.

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Thank you guys for these great podcasts! They offer variety of language that are needed in IELTS. I was practicing using of a few phrasal verbs said in podcasts, then I wondered whether they are safe for writing as well, particularly "cut across" in
“The [book reading] groups cut across the usual hierarchies and working relationships
have improved greatly.”

and "rub off" in
“You will feel happier and more positive and hopefully this will rub off on those
around you.” from Emotional Intelligence

They have rather close meanings. I checked a few dictionaries but there were limited examples, so it was a bit difficult to suppose any formal usage.

Thank you!

Hello Ashi Mashi,

Glad to hear you find the podcasts useful! Yes, you could use 'cut across' and 'rub off' in most writing. They might not be appropriate in extremely formal writing, or perhaps in formal scientific or academic writing, but otherwise, and even for the IELTS academic section, I'd say they be good. Neither are particularly common vocabulary items, so I think using them correctly would actually make a good impression.

All the best,
The LearnEnglish Team

Thank you, Kirk!

I love reading books. though, sometimes I feel confused because of them

I think it depends on their interests. If he don't like to read or fiction, he may be bored and this method could be counter-effective. Instead of imposing, I think we could find their interests and then develop their creativity by encourage motivation. Let them think that they want to do and they could do that.
I don't really have a kind of favourite book. I love reading but not whatever themes. I like some kinds of thrillers, so I often read Dan Brown's novel. By the way, I think it's a good alternative to learn English although there are many difficulties when I meet some new words. Sometimes, I may meet a few complicated words that we don't usually speak everyday.