Adam
Hello and welcome to Episode 16 of Series 4 of LearnEnglish Elementary Podcasts. My name is Adam and my colleague Jo will be joining us later to talk about some of the language from the podcast.
Last time we heard Tess and Ravi talking about Sherlock Holmes, a famous British detective. Or perhaps I should say a famous British fictional detective. As Ravi explained, Sherlock Holmes wasn't a real person – he was actually a character in stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Zafarbek from Uzbekistan wrote in to say thank you for the information! Zafarbek loves Sherlock Holmes films but didn't know that Sherlock Holmes wasn't a real detective. Don’t worry, Zafarbek, even when Doyle was writing the original stories 120 years ago, people thought he was real then.
Abdulazim Saffaf from Syria says 'I thought he was a real person until I listened to this podcast!' Abdulazim also said that he's just bought a hat like Sherlock's hat and so all his friends call him Sherlock Holmes. You don't see many hats like that these days, Abdulazim – and it's called a 'deerstalker' by the way, because people used to wear them when they were hunting deer.
Ypf1083 is new to the website – welcome! – and says 'I've read most of the books about Sherlock Holmes and I love them. He's one of my favorite characters'. Me, too. And britishlearner from Guinea remembers hearing about Sherlock Holmes for the first time in one of the jokes from the first series of the podcast (Series 1 Episode 2 actually, britishlearner – you've got a good memory!) and also in an episode of Word on the Street, when Ashley tried to solve a crime.
Zara Zieno from Syria isn't very keen on Sherlock Holmes. She once tried to watch it with her brother but had to stop because it was very frightening. But Zara really likes a series called Detective Conan, and a lot of you wrote in to say the same thing – Detective Conan is obviously very popular, even though I've never heard of him!
So thank you to Wuri Koes and Arum Adriani, both from Indonesia, for writing in and explaining a bit about it. As Wuri Koes explains, Detective Conan is a Japanese manga series. It's about a clever student who helps the police solve crimes. His enemies give him a poison that turns him into a child, but he carries on solving crimes secretly and calls himself Conan after Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, who wrote the Sherlock Holmes books. And, as Arum Adriana says, there are some similarities between Sherlock Holmes and Detective Conan and the way they solve their cases, perhaps because the writer, Gosho Aoyama, is a big Holmes fan.
Speaking of other fictional detectives, Laura 1240 from Italy said 'Ever since I was a child I've always loved Agatha Christie and her private Belgian detective Hercule Poirot, but I like Miss Marple very much too. I've read almost all her books, and watched all the movies and TV series based on her characters and I really, really love them all!'
Great comments everyone – please keep writing them. And don't forget about the Elementary Podcast app. Follow the link from the LearnEnglish website or go to the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store to get it.
And now it's time to catch up with Carolina and her friends. It's coming to the end of the academic year, everyone's busy with exams – and some people have some important decisions to make about their future. Let's see what's happening ...
Carolina – After the exam
Fellow student: Phew. That was difficult.
Carolina: Yes, it was. Did you do question four? The one about South America?
Fellow student: The one about the Atlantic coast? God no. That was really complicated. Why? Did you?
Carolina: Yes. I thought it was quite easy. Oh dear.
Fellow student: Coming for lunch?
Carolina: Yes, um, oh, um, just a minute, I've got a voice message.
Jamie: Hi. It's me. I need to speak to you. It's really important. I'm in an exam until one. Meet me outside the lecture block after that.
Carolina: Oh. Well, no, I can't come for lunch, Sally. Sorry. I've got to meet someone.
Fellow student: OK. See you tomorrow.
Carolina: Yeah, bye …
Carolina: So, Jamie? What is it?
Jamie: Wait a minute. Let's find somewhere to sit down.
Carolina: Can't you tell me now? Is it something terrible?
Jamie: Do you want to go somewhere for lunch?
Carolina: No. Let's sit down here. Now. On the grass.
Jamie: Phew. It's really hot. I told you British weather isn't always terrible.
Carolina: Jamie! I know you British talk about the weather all the time – but not now! Why did you want to see me? Tell me now.
Jamie: Well … You remember I told you about that placement that I applied for?
Carolina: Placement? What's that?
Jamie: Like a training position – work experience.
Carolina: You applied for a lot of different things.
Jamie: Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
Carolina: And?
Jamie: Well, they've accepted me.
Carolina: Which one? Where?
Jamie: The one I really wanted. The best one.
Carolina: Oh no. Borneo.
Jamie: Yep. Borneo. The orang-utans.
Carolina: You've got the job.
Jamie: Well, I haven't got it yet. I have to wait for my exam results. They say I have to get a 2:1.
Carolina: You'll get a 2:1. You know you will.
Jamie: I hope so. I've got a 2:1 in my continuous assessment. And the exams are going well.
Carolina: So that's good then.
Jamie: It's great … but you know there's a problem.
Carolina: Yes.
Jamie: The band.
Carolina: The band!?
Jamie: The tour in October with The Electrons. I don't know what to do. It's a terrible decision. Stay here and go on tour with the band – that's every guy's dream. Or go to Borneo and work with orang-utans – my dream since I was a kid. I can't do both.
Carolina: And what about me? Do you think I want you to go to Borneo, the other side of the world?
Jamie: It's only for nine months. We can email, we can phone, we can text. Look, I need time to think about this. It's the biggest decision of my life. And I need you to understand that. Please. OK?
Carolina: Oh, Jamie. OK.
Jamie: Thanks. Now come on, let's get some lunch.
Jo and Adam
Adam: And here's Jo again in the studio. Hi Jo.
Jo: Hi everybody. It's getting exciting, isn't it? Jamie's got the job ...
Adam: But will he go to Borneo?
Jo: Or stay with the band and tour with The Electrons? I think I'd go on tour with the band.
Adam: I think I'd go to Borneo. I visited once and it was amazing. But we need to wait for his exam results.
Jo: Ah, yes. And that's what I want to talk about today. Listen to Jamie and Carolina.
Jamie: Well, I haven't got it yet. I have to wait for my exam results. They say I have to get a 2:1.
Carolina: You'll get a 2:1. You know you will.
Jamie: I hope so. I've got a 2:1 in my continuous assessment. And the exams are going well.
Jo: A 2:1 is a grade. When you get your final degree, you can get a first class degree, which is a very good degree. Like a grade A.
Adam: People say 'I'd like to get a first', or 'My brother got a first at Oxford'.
Jo: And then there's a second class degree. Second class degrees are divided into two levels – you can get a 2:1, which is a good degree, like a grade B.
Adam: Or a 2:2, which isn't as good as a 2:1 – more like a grade C.
Jo: And then there's a third class degree, which isn't so good – more like a grade D.
Adam: So, when you finish university and get your final degree, you can get a first, a 2:1, a 2:2 or a third.
Jo: And Jamie needs to get a 2:1 for the job in Borneo. Listen again to Jamie.
Jamie: I've got a 2:1 in my continuous assessment. And the exams are going well.
Jo: On Jamie's course, students are assessed by a combination of coursework – 'continuous assessment' – and exams, but every university has a different system.
Adam: I used to like exams because I didn’t have to work as hard through the year to pass the course. I could just study hard for a short time before the exam. What about you?
Jo: I preferred continuous assessment. I used to get very stressed for exams.
Adam: We'd like you to write and tell us what you think about exams and continuous assessment.
Jo: Which system do you prefer? Which do you think is better?
Adam: The address is www.britishcouncil.org/learnenglish. And that's all for today. There are some exercises on the website to help you with the language from the podcast.
Jo: Including some more vocabulary connected with study and university.
Jo/Adam: Bye!
Comments
Hi everyone!
Reading this postcard, I'm descoveredes the important about some examen in our lifes, maybe it's true that the result that we can obtaing could change our lifes.As a far I'm concerned we must take account all for where and when we make the next step in our lifes. I give your a piece of advice, if I have in your shoes I would study all my ways and chose always the best one.
Best wishes!
Nice.
Hi everyone! I'm freshman in comments on the LearnEnglish podcast. Glad to be here. I learn English only eight months and that is very interesting for me. When I read about Luiz Carlos, from Brazil, is 69 years old, who never improved his English like now, I was impressed and also inspired, because I'm 52 years old.
Thanks a lot!
Hello musician777,
You're very welcome here and we wish you the best!
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Kirk
The LearnEnglish Team
Hi everyone!
I've been studying in exams system since I become a student till now (almost for 18 years!) and I think it's kind of a bad thing. I perceive students would be more active in a continuous assessment system and this system would inject motivation into the students' society. The main and only system in my country is exams, I guess, but I'm going to rule my own class as a continuous assessment system class, when I make one of my dreams come true and become a teacher.
Thank You
Reza!
Hello everybody, Actually universities in my country-Jordan- use continuous exams, we call them first, second, and final. Second exam may be an assessment or a paper research.
Teachers may specify special units of the material for finals, others may include all units.
In fact I'd rather continuous exams than only one final, that is continuous exams give students the chance to be connected to the material they study more and more and learn better.
Thanks.
This podcast to me was
awesome. I feel so better,
conversation and sherlock
homles story both and educational methords.. All best to me.
I have got a thought from
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regards.
I really don't know the real difference between exams and the continous assessments. Anybody can explain to me of a more clear form?
Thanks
Hello brunoRosa,
These are two different ways of determining students' grades in a course. In continuous assessment, students get grades on several or many pieces of work (e.g. small exams, homework, essays, research papers) and then their final grade is determined by all of this work. In the other system, students take one final exam and the grade they get on that exam is the grade they get for the course.
Which system have you studied in?
Best wishes,
Kirk
The LearnEnglish Team
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