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Episode 17

Tess & Ravi

Tess and Ravi talk about a very famous British family and Adam passes on your kind words to Carolina.

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Adam

Adam: Hello! Welcome to Episode 17 of the LearnEnglish Elementary Podcast. I’m Adam. Rob is on another business trip this week. I think I’m going to have to find a new presenter if he’s never here!

Today we’re going to hear from Tess & Ravi again and, as usual, they’ll be talking about something British - a famous British family - and I'm sure you've got a pretty good idea who that's going to be.

But first, let's talk about some of your comments on the last podcast. We're following the story of Carolina, a student from Venezuela who's studying in Newcastle in Britain. And in the last podcast Carolina had a very bad day - so we asked you to tell us about your experiences of being homesick and what you did to make yourself feel better. A lot of you felt very sorry for Carolina and talked about times when you feel (or felt) the same. And you had a lot of good advice for Carolina and other people in the same situation.

Elaheh, who is from Iran but studying in Germany, says she feels very homesick, especially when the weather is cold and rainy! But she can make herself feel better by listening to Persian music, watching Persian films or going to a Persian restaurant. I like Persian restaurants, too.

And our friend Umi, who has lived away from home since she was thirteen, has a lot of suggestions. For example, she says "explore a new place… visit some interesting places in your second home… go out if you feel a bit down". She also talks about how easy it is to keep in touch with your family and friends at home with modern technology, like mobile phones, Skype or sites like Facebook.

And Ahmed from Algeria says Carolina should talk to a friend - "ideally someone who's going through the same experience - she might feel better when she can cheer up someone else". That's good advice.

Some of you are feeling a bit nervous about going abroad in the future, like ewcielinka from Poland and D-life from Turkey. And the good news is that most of you said that feelings of sadness and being homesick don't last for ever. Aigerim from Kazakhstan says she cried a lot when she first left home, but she says "this world is not without kind people and they helped me".

And some of you told Carolina not to worry about her English. Julia from Hong Kong said "It's natural for you to have difficulty speaking English fluently." Julia told Carolina to remember that she can speak in English, but the rude man in the shop probably doesn't speak any Spanish at all.

And to really cheer Carolina up, both Johnny from Brazil and Manasset from Cameroon said how much they liked her voice and her Venezuelan accent.

A big thanks to everyone who wrote in with comments and suggestions. There might be a lot of people around the world feeling homesick and sad, and your messages can be a great help - so keep them coming at www.britishcouncil.org/learnenglish or look for us on Facebook.

We'll be finding out how Carolina's getting on next time. But now it's time to hear from Tess and Ravi, talking about that famous British family. 

Tess and Ravi

Ravi: Hello there, we’re back again to talk about the things you think you know about Britain. I’m Ravi.

Tess: And I’m Tess. And today’s topic from the things you chose is… the royal family. We’re going to tell you something about the Queen and her family – the British royal family. What could be more British than that?

Ravi: Let’s take turns, Tess. I’ll start with the Queen. Well, she’s Queen Elizabeth the Second and she’s been queen for a really long time, since 1952. Her father was King George VI and he died when she was 26, so she was quite young when she became Queen and she’s quite old now. She’s married to… Tess?

Tess: She’s married to Prince Philip. He’s five years older than her and he’s Greek; he was part of the Greek royal family. He’s also known as the Duke of Edinburgh and he’s also known for being quite… down to earth, he speaks his mind…

Ravi: OK, Tess, I know what you mean. The Queen and Prince Philip have got three children…

Tess: Four!

Ravi: Yes – four children. The oldest one is Princess Anne…

Tess: No she isn’t. Charles is the oldest.

Ravi: Is he? Are you sure?

Tess: Certain.

Ravi: Really? OK then, Princess Anne is the second oldest…

Tess: Yes.

Ravi: And she’s also called the Princess Royal. It’s tricky this when everyone seems to have two names. Members of the royal family usually have a title, like The Duke of Edinburgh or the Princess Royal. Anyway, Anne’s the second oldest…

Tess: And the Queen’s oldest child is Prince Charles. That means he’s the heir to the throne, the next one to be king, after the Queen. His title is the Prince of Wales, so Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales, is the heir to the throne. He’s married to Camilla.

Ravi: What’s her title – Duchess of Cornwall, isn’t it?

Tess: That’s right.

Ravi: But everyone knows he used to be married to Princess Diana, who died in 1997. Now, Charles and Diana had two children.

Tess: Hang on! We said the Queen and Prince Philip had four children. We haven’t done all of them yet. The other two are Andrew and Edward.

Ravi: Oh yeah, that’s right. Prince Andrew – he’s the Duke of York – used to be married to Sarah Ferguson - and Prince Edward, he’s the… erm, Tess?

Tess: The Earl of Wessex. I looked it up.

Ravi: He’s the youngest of the Queen’s children. Anyway, as I said, Charles and Diana had two children, two boys, Prince William and Prince Harry. William’s the oldest, so he’ll be king after Prince Charles. Charles will be King Charles the Third and after that William will be King William the… Fifth, won’t he? 

Tess: Yeah, William the Fifth. He’s second in line to the throne after his dad, Prince Charles.

Ravi: And he’s just got married to Kate Middleton. Right, I hope you’ve remembered all that - lots of names and titles! I think it’s important to say that the Queen isn’t in charge of the country; she doesn’t have any real political power. The Prime Minister is the most important person politically in the country but the Queen is important as a sort of symbol, don’t you think?

Tess: Yeah. I mean, you know, some people don’t think we should have a King or Queen but I think the royal family are quite popular, don’t you? People like them.

Ravi: Yeah, I agree. And I wouldn’t like to be a member of the royal family. They don’t get any privacy – cameras and journalists everywhere! It must be terrible.

Tess: Don’t worry Ravi. I don’t think you’ll ever be a prince.

Ravi: You never know, Tess, I might meet a princess.

Tess: Yes, Ravi. 

Adam

It isn't easy to explain all the names and titles for the British Royal family, especially when everyone has two names. At school, it was hard to remember the names of the kings and queens, because so many have the same name! There are 8 Henrys, for example, and you have to remember the number. And to make it worse, you write the number with old Roman numbers, so I is one and V is five – so Henry VIII is actually Henry the Eighth!

Did any of you have to learn kings and queens at school? And how many of you live in countries which still have kings and queens? Write, and let us know.

Another thing is I noticed when I was listening to Tess and Ravi is how difficult it can be to describe your family in English - how people are related to you and to each other, who's the oldest and who's the youngest. It can be especially complicated when people get divorced and then get married again. For example, one of my friends has two mothers, two fathers, and three brothers. His parents got divorced and then they both remarried. So now he has a mother, a father, a stepmother, a stepfather, a brother, and two stepbrothers! That’s complicated!

I know in some languages, all the family relationships are very clear. In some Asian languages, you have different words for your uncle on your mother's side and on your father's side, as well as different words for older and younger brothers, sisters, and cousins, but in English, you have to explain everything! Is that true in your language?

There are some exercises on the website to help you with the vocabulary and grammar that you need to talk about families. We've got some exercises to practice the different words for family relationships, and some to help you explain who is older and younger. There's even a puzzle to test your logic skills! And if you're as confused as Ravi about the British Royal family, don't worry. There are comprehension exercises to help you with that, too.

Don't forget you can do them online or download the pdf file and print them.

Remember to write and tell us about your families – or your Royal families. You know we really like getting to know more about you. The address is www.britishcouncil.org/learnenglish. We always enjoy reading your messages.

And, unfortunately, that’s all we’ve got time for today. But we'll be back soon, with more news about Carolina. So see you next time. Bye!

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Hi, all. I live in a democratic country, so we don't have any king or queen. But we do read about royal families in the history, as Indian subcontinent had many great kings and queens for instance Prithvi Raj Chauhan, Jhansi ki Rani etc. In my language we have different words for all relations like materal grandfather, paternal uncle, elder brother/sister etc. I live in ajoint family. My family includes my husband and daughter wit my in laws family.

I do not live in a country which has a king or queen but we used to be a Spanish and Portuguese colony at different times long time ago in history though, nowadays I live in a country which is an independent democratic republic with no royalties dependences or relations to the political power and with no direct relations with any religion neither. I do have to learn about the Spanish and Portuguese royalties when I was studying history at the elementary school, but I forgot their names and titles.
In Spanish, at least here in my country we use the same names for family members as are used in Britain but not very often we used the 'second cousin' - to name the sons of our father's and mother's cousin's - and 'second aunt/uncle' - to name our father's and mother's cousin's.
Luckily I still have got all my direct relatives, my father is the oldest in my family, then my mother is 7 years older than my mother, my sister is the oldest son and 4 years older than my and 3 years older than my older brother.

Thanks for the episode.
Great site!!

In Japan we have royal family. Like in Britain they are the symbol of the country. They don’t govern the country.
In Japanese we call family members the same way as in English. We call mother-in- law, for example, Gibo, which means mother-in-law. When we call her, however, we use the word mom. We never call her Gibo. If I called my mother-in-law Gibo, it would be too rude or too weird.

The system in my country is Semi-presidential system . It means it hasn't royal family or thing like that. But Egypt wasn't like that before 1954. In our history subject we have many and complicating names we have to study them . Those names cause the long history of Egypt . The most common example the ancient egyptians . They have many similar names and confusing relationships to study it . There are many and different civilizations ruled over Egypt.

My language is more specific than English language in describing members of family .For instance, in English you say uncle for brother's rather or brother's mother but in Arabic there are different words. The same for aunt . We differ between the boy and the girl in all of words like french language I guess. I think my family is not difficult to describe. I have got mother ,father and two sisters. My oldest sister "Tasneem" is 19 years old . My youngest sister "Samah" is 15 years old . And I am in middle . That's all !

My name is Miguel Ángel, I am thirty four years old. I have three brothers and one sister; Jorge, Jaime, Rey y Alicia. Jorge is the oldest and he is married to Guadalupe. They have four daughters; Elizabeth, Adriana, Diana y Perla. Rey is the second younger, he is married to Karina and they have two sons and two daughters. I am the younger I am married to Susana and we have a son, Alex.

we don't have royal family , we have president and his family ruling our country they even have our country they live very luxurious life while i'm a teacher and i have less than 50 dollars a month

I live in a country where Rojal titles and Emperors were in the past. I remember how I had to learn all of them when I used to study at school and that was really tricky. The last Emperor Nicholas The Second was dethroned in 1917 when revolution occurred. Now we have only president and premier minister.
I have my mum whose sister (my aunt) has two children, my cousins. My father’s sister has her stepdaughter, my stepsister.

Hello Adam and thanks for the podcast.
I was born in a big familly. I have 2 sisters and 2 brothers. My sisters are younger than me. and I have to older brother . my mother had many brothers and sisters but most of them died when they were so young and now I just have two aunt and an uncle from mother's side, because my aunt's husband died when I was a child . My dad had 3 sisters 2 of them died afew years ago and now He has just one sister.
I have many cousins, and I have a brother in low and two sister in low I also have a neice and a nephew . My neice is so lovely she is 4 months old, she is daughter of my younger brother , and my nephew is about 15 he is so tall, and he is son of my older brother.

In my country there is no royal family we had a royal family about 40 years ago, people still remember them and pray for them.

Hello everyone, my country doesn't have a king or queen. In history, the last king was dethroned in 1945. About my family, my father has seven siblings and my mother has eleven siblings, so I have many uncles and aunts and cousins. It's so complicated, but I love them.

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